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Profiles & Features August 21, 2020

By In this episode, get the full scoop on your Bedside Manners podcast hosts Corry Klebold and Paul Ulrich, along with hearing some updates about Nursing Compact States.

Bedside Manners Ep 1 – Introduction & Compact States

Episode 1: Introduction & Compact States

In this episode, get the full scoop on your Bedside Manners podcast hosts Corry Klebold and Paul Ulrich, along with hearing some updates about Nursing Compact States.

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Corry Klebold: Hey, welcome to Bedside Manners: Travel Nursing Unhinged, the podcast where we talk about the ins and outs, everything you need to know about travel nursing, we talk to current travelers, we have guests constantly coming and going, experts in the industry. Be sure to subscribe if you haven't done so already. Let's get started.

Corry Klebold:               I'm Corry Klebold and with me as always is my fellow recruiter, my good friend, Mr. Paul Ulrich. Paul, how are you doing today?

Paul Ulrich:                   I'm doing great Corry.

Corry Klebold:               Awesome. So guys, this podcast we're going to be talking about all types, everything to do with travel nursing, giving you all the ins and outs, sticking with current events, answering questions you guys may have. But first in want to introduce myself, Paul, give us a little bit about yourself. Paul. How long have you been in the recruiting business?

Paul Ulrich:                   Well Corry, yes, my name is Paul Ulrich. I've been recruiting for about three and a half years and prior to that I have worked in health care facilities, hospitals, and I was a CNA at a group home for about eight years as well.

Corry Klebold:               Awesome.

Paul Ulrich:                   How about you?

Corry Klebold:               Well, I've been recruiting for about three years now. Before that managed a rock climbing gym in New Zealand. Before that was a sound engineer traveling the world, so jack of all trades, master of none. Brand new dad. I've got a seven week old at home. She's awesome.

Paul Ulrich:                   Yeah, she is. Congratulations.

Corry Klebold:               Thank you. Thank you. So let's get into it guys. What this podcast is about. We're going to be interviewing people. We're going to be interviewing industry professionals, recruiters, nurses, DONs, as many people as we can get to talk to just to give you as many insights about the travel world as possible. We're going to try to keep it as current as possible and give you current events. We've got a great guest on our next episode, one of my travelers, Mr. Todd Greer, he's a male NICU nurse, ladies. We've got a lot of questions for him. It's going to be a really fun episode. But guys, like I said, we want to keep it current. We want to answer some questions and with that we're going to do a little current events section, guys. Current events with Paul.

Paul Ulrich:                   All right. Current events. And the first current events we're going to talk about is compact states. Some of you may have heard Indiana is joining the compact state effective July 1st, and also Louisiana, and possibly Kansas. I haven't heard much on Kansas and Louisiana, but I did hear from one of my travelers, she did call the board the other day, and she said that Indiana is expecting to have a slowdown as usual whenever a new compact state goes compact. They're going to have an influx of people applying for that, and so they're not really ready for the influx of applications. So just if you're in Indiana and you want to become a compact resident, what you do need to do is you obviously have to have a permanent tax home in Indiana. And whenever it does become effective, it doesn't happen automatically. You actually have to apply for the compact state.

Corry Klebold:               It's just like Florida last year within... I think it was last year with Florida becoming compact-

Paul Ulrich:                   mm-hmm (affirmative) and Georgia.

Corry Klebold:               State driver's license, tax home, permanent address in that state, it is an application process. And typically I think Florida was taking what? Two to four weeks?

Paul Ulrich:                   Yeah.

Corry Klebold:               It's not taking long now.

Paul Ulrich:                   Yeah. It's like 150 bucks and then max four weeks. But I guess that first like month or two is going to be ...

Corry Klebold:               There's a background check you'll have to do, fingerprints, all that. Compact states, in case you don't know what a compact state is, being licensed within a compact states opens up, I believe it's what? 25, 27 states now-

Paul Ulrich:                   Yeah.

Corry Klebold:               ... throughout the US where if you have a compact license within that state, you can freely work with any other states. Really nice. It's good to see Kansas, Louisiana, Indiana joining the compact states. It opens up more opportunities for people. Alabama has just passed a law through congress as well, but they're waiting on the governor to sign off, so they're going to be joining the compact state soon too. Paul, what else? You've had nurses with getting compact license and changing over to it, did you face any issues with them?

Paul Ulrich:                   No. It's just education. A lot of my nurses just thought that it was automatic and it's not. So if you have any questions, obviously, call your board, they're going to be the best resource for you. I mean, there's a lot of information online, but go to the source. That's what I would do.

Corry Klebold:               Yeah, definitely.

Paul Ulrich:                   And with the compact state, it's such a huge advantage especially you live in a non compact state and you want to travel, it's hard.

Corry Klebold:               You're limited a lot. And certainly, we always talk about with traveling, and we'll probably do a whole episode on getting assignments and the best way to get assignments, but the more opportunities you have, the more jobs we can submit to always makes it easier to find those jobs.

Paul Ulrich:                   Flexibility's key.

Corry Klebold:               Definitely. Flexibility is always the key in life and in travel nursing. So, Paul, let's talk about the nurses that aren't compact, that don't live in a compact state. Ohio, California, Washington, Oregon. We hear it all the time, "I'm not compact. How do I become compact?" Well, move to the compact state. Unfortunately, it's the only way to get compact status. Obviously, that's not in the deck of cards for a lot of people. So how to travel without a compact state. Paul, what do you think? I mean, we know there's walkthrough states, South Carolina, New Hampshire, I believe is one now.

Paul Ulrich:                   Yeah, Louisiana.

Corry Klebold:               Louisiana-

Paul Ulrich:                   Hawaii.

Corry Klebold:               ... which we don't got to worry about anymore. It's compact. But a lot of these states too, it's a couple of days to get a license. And again, relationship with your recruiter, talk to your recruiter, tell him what you want. Most agencies will help with the reimbursement of a license.

Paul Ulrich:                   Yeah. Talk to your recruiter about like okay, well, what states are you interested in? I don't want to spend a lot of money on getting all these licenses. I don't want to like get 10 licenses. That's ridiculous.

Corry Klebold:               Yeah. Several hundred dollars. And with reimbursements too. It's rarely just a free for all. It's not like, "Oh, get every license you want."

Paul Ulrich:                   But then it boils down to the fact of why do you want to travel? Do you want to travel to make money? Or do you want to travel to be in a certain state? Or do you want to travel to be in a certain state or city next to your family? Pick two or three states, and get licensed, and then obviously have communication with your recruiter. I was like, "Where are the jobs at for my specialty?" Do you want to get-

Corry Klebold:               California. That's where the jobs are.

Paul Ulrich:                   Yeah. But no, I mean, obviously don't get a license in a state that's not going to be very productive for you. That's why you have to have those kinds of communication.

Corry Klebold:               Exactly. And best way to see what the timeline is, how long it takes, call the board of nursing. Your recruiter, if they're good, they're going to help you out with that. Again, we can reimburse, most agencies can, that's the thing. And like Paul said, get a couple of licenses. I mean, if you're in Ohio, you're going to have an Ohio license, but get Pennsylvania-

Paul Ulrich:                   West Virginia.

Corry Klebold:               West Virginia.

Paul Ulrich:                   Tennessee.

Corry Klebold:               Get New York. That's a huge area that opens up to you and those, but if you're not looking to go to Washington, don't waste your money on a Washington license.

Paul Ulrich:                   Yep, exactly.

Corry Klebold:               Another cool time with this scrub techs. Now the NBS TSA or TNCC is usually pretty much universal, goes across the board, but there are a handful of states where you need an additional license. Colorado, you need the DORA. Washington, you need a department of health... the Washington State Board of Health. And New Hampshire-

Paul Ulrich:                   New Hampshire.

Corry Klebold:               ... you need one. North Dakota, you need one.

Paul Ulrich:                   UMP.

Corry Klebold:               And there's another one I'm missing, isn't there? Or is it just the four?

Paul Ulrich:                   I think so. That's Washington state, New Hampshire, North Dakota.

Corry Klebold:               Colorado.

Paul Ulrich:                   Dora and Colorado.

Corry Klebold:               That's it.

Paul Ulrich:                   I think that's it.

Corry Klebold:               Yeah. So if you're a scrub tech, you're going to need an additional license to work in those states. Anything else beyond that? It's why scrub techs are great. You can go anywhere.

Paul Ulrich:                   Yep. Very flexible.

Corry Klebold:               Awesome. Well I think that is all we have for you guys this week.

Paul Ulrich:                   Yes. And just to wrap things up, thank you so much for joining us on this episode of Bedside Manners and Travel Nursing Unhinged. If you'd like to get in touch with us, send us an email to Each episode show notes are available at If you'd like to subscribe to our podcast on Apple podcast, Google podcast, or Spotify, or anywhere else you listen, which I highly suggest you do because we're going to be coming at you with some really awesome material.

Corry Klebold:               Yeah. Please do follow us guys. If you have any questions, leave us a comment, send us an email, and we'll do our best to answer it in the next episode. But, like Paul said, we're going to be come at you with a lot of good information, a lot of tricks, a lot of tips, lots of advice. That's what we're all about is just-

Paul Ulrich:                   Lots of guests, lots of good information.

Corry Klebold:               Lots of guests, lots of fun guests, explaining things, industry insiders, all that fun stuff. Definitely tune in next week guys. Again, we've got one of my travelers, he's been with me awhile now, Todd Greer, the male NICU nurse. It's going to be interesting. It's going to be fun. We've got a lot of fun questions for him.

Paul Ulrich:                   Awesome. Thanks guys. See you next time. And if you like this podcast and you found it valuable, be sure to leave us a review. Special thanks to Jonathan Cary for helping produce this episode and Aiden Dykes for the music and editing. And of course each episode is powered by Advance Travel Nursing. Thanks again.

Corry Klebold:               Thanks guys.

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